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Expert Warns of Chinese Influence Campaigns in the West: A Conversation with Professor Clive Hamilton

Clive Charles Hamilton, Professor, Australian author, and public intellectual

DC DISPATCH w/Sara Corcoran

DC DISPATCH - Married to former National Intelligence Officer Anthony Schinella, I had the benefit of receiving cutting edge reading recommendations from him, as he was an astute identifier and observer of stealth influences upon current events that are beneath the mainstream media radar, but warrant wide awareness of.

One such recommendation—presented as a gift—was a copy of the 2019 book Silent Invasion, by Clive Hamilton, which chronicles and analyzes China’s aggressive determination to bully, warp, and reshape Australian politics and culture in its favor.

That agenda is not just Australia’s problem, but has also been occurring—also quietly—throughout the African continent, as well.  

And it has, arguably, been ventured here in the United States, decades ago, with the Chinese attempts to influence Bill Clinton’s 1996 reelection campaign, and then with their long-awaited admittance into the World Trade Organization on December 11, 2001—which has since warped the American economy by the massive trade imbalances and the consequential pull on American politics.

My husband Tony and I often discussed China's increasing influence in America’s public domain, as well as in other countries around the world.

China was one of our shared interests, as he was half-Chinese and I received my MBA from a business school in Shanghai.

Our conversations could range from how the Chinese Security Services or PLA (People’s Liberation Army) had centralized its operations, to how they supported influence campaigns targeting universities, politicians, and public sentiment in Australia. 

So while many of us in the United States have been preoccupied with Russian influence campaigns here, it turns out that the Chinese have been wreaking havoc on our ally Oz down under; and indeed the main threat to Australia's national security interests today come from its largest trading partner to the northwest: China.

In Clive Hamilton’s Silent Invasion, the diligent Australian professor chronicles China’s uneasy relationship with Australian commerce, its attempts to create an internal diaspora loyal to the mandates of Beijing, and the history of China’s political infiltration steathily executed on Australia.

In many ways, the United States can look to this expert and his study of Australia on how to diagnose, manage, and expose the negative results that foreign influence campaigns so often bring to the unwitting host.

Below are excerpts from my interview with Professor Clive Hamilton:
SC: Why did you decide to write Silent Invasion?  You clearly document the resistance to its publication, but were you also surprised by the support you received within the UK?

CH: In 2016, mainly as a result of newspaper stories, I became alarmed at the apparent attempts by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) to influence politics in Australia. I decided to investigate the phenomenon and, if no one else better qualified were doing so, write a book about it. When it was published, I was surprised at the strong level of interest in Silent Invasion in the United States, mainly from within the federal government and among think tankers and analysts.
SC: You begin your book recounting the difficulties in getting your book published. Did you experience the same challenges with your newest book?

CH: Hardie Grant Books, who came to the rescue in Australia, suggested the new book, Hidden Hand. So we had an Australian publisher from the outset. We did not have much trouble finding a northern hemisphere publisher, with Oneworld quickly picking it up. Then deals were done for German and Dutch publications. Other translations are expected to follow. There is much greater awareness now of the problem, but publishers around the world are very wary of the CCP.
SC: You do an excellent job of highlighting the multiple Chinese influence campaigns that happened in your country. How does “soft power” impact the probability of a future military conflict with China?

CH: If there were a military conflict with China, one big unknown is how much China could mobilize its friendly forces within the United States and its allies. I have been attacked very strongly for raising that question in Silent Invasion, but military planners would be foolish to discount that kind of fifth column activity.
SC: To the extent possible, what is similar or different about what you've seen in Australia and what you've observed in the US?

CH: It’s a complex question with no simple answer. In Australia, we don’t think about regime change. We have much greater economic dependence, which makes us vulnerable to blackmail. One important similarity is that in both countries, when Beijing has run into headwinds at a federal level, it has concentrated its influence efforts at the state and local government levels. And with great success, as we show in Hidden Hand. The CCP uses a phrase for this strategy, which translates as “use the countryside to surround the cities.” The United States does not have the very large diaspora that Australia does, but it does have much more sophisticated technology that Beijing targets for theft. As it does with all smaller nations, Beijing believes it can push Australia around. The most important action for any country is to signal clearly it will not be bullied, otherwise you end up like Canada where the elites have for the most part capitulated. Sweden is a good case of a nation that has refused to be intimidated into acquiescence.
SC: How did the resignation  of former Senator Sam Dastyari impact Australian laws to prevent foreign money in elections?

CH: The Dastyari affair was very important in raising public awareness and prompting new legislation. The stories about his close relationship with a Chinese billionaire who has tight links with the CCP appalled Australians and made many aware that we have a big problem. It was telling that Australia’s former foreign minister Bob Carr was effectively in the pay of the same billionaire when he headed a think tank the billionaire set up. Carr became a loyal Beijing apologist.
SC: Do you have any examples of Chinese funding/support that were for the good of Australia?

CH: I think phrases like “Chinese funding/support” are ambiguous and open to misinterpretation.

SC: What has Australia successfully done to combat issues you've highlighted in the book--elections, university funding?

CH: The most important measure is the law criminalizing foreign interference. Foreign interference—that is, covert attempts on behalf of a foreign power to influence the government or interfere in the exercise of democratic rights--falls outside traditional definitions of espionage, yet it is the basic modus operandi of the CCP. The new law outlaws many “united front” activities carried out by the CCP in Australia. We have yet to see the first prosecutions.

SC: Can you comment on the 5 Eyes Perspective on Huawei 5G and why you think there was a split?  Will recent events, Covid-19 change this perspective?

CH: Getting Huawei into the 5G networks of western nations, especially Five Eyes, is extremely important to Beijing’s strategic plans. It’s been preparing the ground for more than a decade, and Beijing has put enormous effort into winning the battle. More than anything else, the success of Huawei in penetrating the 5G networks will determine the future of the Five Eyes Alliance. If Beijing succeeds it will be recorded in the history books as a decisive victory for Beijing in its political warfare against the West—that is, if we are allowed to write the history books.

SC: Former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd is viewed by many as pioneering the strengthening of  Australian/Chinese relations. How do Australians view his actions while PM?
CH: His legacy is viewed as mixed, and not too successful. Only the elites were impressed with his Chinese language skills. Keating and Howard did much more to build the relationship. Remember Rudd was reported at a climate change conference raging about “those Chinese rat-fuckers.” Today his views on China are all over the place, and seem to be tailored primarily to advancing his own interests.

SC: Secret City is a popular Netflix show.  Do you think the storyline was based on real life? Does China think it is capable to find a place in Pine Gap?

CH: I have no doubt that Beijing is doing everything it can to penetrate Pine Gap, including recruiting Chinese-Australians who can be persuaded or pressured to put China’s interests before Australia’s.

SC: According to the Herald Sun, members of the Australian parliament recently launched a brutal assault on CCP re Coronavirus.  Is this reflective of public sentiment? Do you have concerns about your health system matching capacity with demand for hospitalizations?
CH: The coronavirus crisis is rapidly shifting global attitudes, mostly against China, although Beijing is having significant propaganda victories in some parts of the world. But the strategic landscape is shifting in ways beneficial to Beijing, not least because the governance faults of the United States have been exposed so badly, and the USA is on the ropes.

SC: Thank you Professor Hamilton.

NOTE: Clive Charles Hamilton AM FRSA is an Australian public intellectual currently serving as Professor of Public Ethics at the Center for Applied Philosophy and Public Ethics and the Vice Chancellor's Chair in Public Ethics at Charles Sturt University. Mr Hamilton regularly appears in the Australian media and is considered to be one of the most high-profile critics of China's growing influence in Australia. His book, Silent Invasion, can be purchased on Amazon.

(Sara Corcoran is publisher of the National Courts Monitor and writes for CityWatch, Daily Koz, and other news outlets.)

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